Re: Round 69: Chaos Rising

by Rainboy Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:58 am

Only two votes are required for lynch now. Good luck everyone!

by Rainboy Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:33 am

French Connections wrote:I'm fairly sure that based on his claim, Zink is Cadance. Easiest way to find out whether he is or not is by getting a counter claim (that should at least narrow down the list of suspects to 2); otherwise imo he's safe.

Careful, you're getting mighty close to breaking rules there. As far as I understand it, the common rule here is that players are not allowed to claim (or otherwise hint at/confirm) their name. I don't see anything wrong with speculating about other players' names, but be careful that you're not encouraging them to confirm or deny your speculation. I made a specific exception for Love and Darkness in the first phase of the game because so much of the game centered around them.

Edit: Actually, strictly speaking, speculating on someone else's name kinda implies that you are claiming not to be that role. So I'd just rather not have any sort of speculation on names period. I won't modkill or do anything drastic for that one, but don't do it again.

Psst, and the irony of all this is that Cadance is already dead (see chapter one of this book), so it can't possibly be Zink.

by Scept Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:05 pm

Looks like nobody's voting. Guess I'll make the first mark. [vote HATER]

by Zink120 Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:08 pm

Tbh I think it's HATER too.
French is paying way less attention than usual so I don't think he has an important role.
I'll give HATER four hours to make a case for himself before I place my vote.

by Rainboy Thu Feb 27, 2014 4:16 pm

Whee, isn't that fun. Seems like we've had voting shenanigans every single round this game. Round (and game) is now over, as of Scept's vote a couple hours ago. Unfortunately, I am still in class and won't be home until very late tonight my time.

I expect to be home around 9PM, and I'll likely spend a couple of hours writing a story and compiling all the actions, awards and comments. Expect a post sometime after 11PM EST.

I almost want to spill the beans and let y'all know who won... but I think it'll be more fun for everyone if I'm mean and keep that to myself until the 'big' post. And don't any of you go spoiling who you were. ;)

by Zink120 Thu Feb 27, 2014 4:50 pm

Whoa what it's over!? I'm guessing that whoever won knows they did.
Gaah I bet it was French >___>

by Scept Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:08 pm

I'll be honest, the game took way too long. I don't think the incredibly specific kill conditions in part one were a good idea...

by Zink120 Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:22 pm

Well, each to their own. Best round I've played in ages!

by Gam Thu Feb 27, 2014 7:19 pm

Scept wrote:I'll be honest, the game took way too long. I don't think the incredibly specific kill conditions in part one were a good idea...

I would probably blame the day end condition instead. The number of days itself wasn't really horrible, but every "day" ended up taking multiple real life days.

by Rainboy Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:45 pm

Well, first off, let's make up for the lack of a story last round and finish that up properly. More to come shortly.

Book Two: Chaos
Chapter Four: Neverending Strife

Twilight paced in the throneroom, a seething mess of regret, guilt and hopelessness. How could she let Celestia down like this? How could she, Celestia's most trusted student, fail so utterly and completely? Discord floated in the corner, absently staring at the many stained glass windows that occupied the room out of apparent boredom. He would occasionally pose a carefully crafted question to Twilight designed to cause her even more despair. And it worked, for the most part. He slowly nudged the alicorn over the brink of insanity and giggled to himself at how easy the whole thing was. With Celestia out of the way, there was no strong foundation to keep the others going. Perhaps it was better that the replacement had been found - this was certainly the swifter way to conclude his plans.

"...but it seems like there's someone orchestrating this from the inside," Twilight continued, catching Discord's attention again, "someone who knows us all well enough to predict what we'll do ahead of time. Sombra and Chrysalis couldn't do that, as they've proven several times now."
"But Twilight," Discord retorted, slightly nervous at how close to home Twilight had hit with her last statement, "none of your friends would ever want to harm you."
"You're right," Twilight concluded, putting Discord's mind at ease, "but you might."

Discord was caught off guard by the frank statement, but he recovered quickly, reassuring Twilight of his loyalty to his friends. Twilight questioned him on his whereabouts during the time Celestia was gone, and why he hadn't lifted a finger to help when she and Rarity had battle Chrysalis. Discord, caught in his lie, took preemptive measures and wielded his magic to secure the Elements of Harmony, which he suspected Twilight was about to use to banish him to his stone prison again. Unfortunately for him, Twilight was faster on the draw and had already activated them...

[story Book Two: Chaos, Chapter Four: Neverending Strife]

Note: This is merely the story for the last round's events, posted here.

by Rainboy Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:55 am

Book Two: Chaos
Chapter Five: Lulamoon

With Sombra, Chrysalis and Discord defeated, Equestria finally had time to properly mourn her lost princess. Twilight and Luna called for a day of remembrance and gathered the townsfolk together for a memorial. Stories were told and good times remembered, that is until a lone cloaked figure interrupted the proceedings. Trixie was back and unafraid of anything. Alicorn Amulet in hoof, Trixie pranced up to the podium and stole the spotlight. With a flick of her horn, she picked up Twilight and Luna and set them down in the crowd below. Announcing her new reign, Trixie assumed total control of Canterlot, and eventually Equestria.

Hater lynched
GAME OVER!
Trixie (Scept) wins.

[kill Hater, lynched]
[story Book Two: Chaos, Chapter Five: Lulamoon]

Crappy story, I know... but it's late and I was too ambitious trying to do two at once.

by Scept Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:26 am

You were all rused, blah blah blah. I kinda hoped it would be more satisfying.

by Rainboy Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:26 am

Remaining roles:

Hater lost his spark(le):

Round 69: Chaos Rising - Page 11 Untitled_zps1d431ad7

You are Twilight Sparkle, holder of the most powerful and elusive element of them all, Magic. You are dead set on destroying Chaos and the Nightmare that plagues Equestia, and you have the power of the Elements on your side to do just that.

You start with five magical potions and do not know what they do. Each round, you may use two of them on chosen players (including yourself). In general, targets will not be aware of the effects of potions. Used potions will be replaced with new ones each round. Instead of using a potion, you may taste it to discover it's effects. This does not consume the potion, and does not apply any effects to Twilight. Each potion can be identified by its color and smell. You can tell some basic info from the smell: Foul = Negative effect, Fragrant = Positive effect, Musty = Potentially positive or negative. While you don't know what the colors mean without tasting them, you know that there is a small chance you will receive a Prismatic potion that has powerful, permanent effects.

You win when the evil team is eliminated.

Potions and effects:

French had a little too much fun:

Zink couldn't redirect the inevitable:

Scept conquered everything:

by Tael Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:31 am

good game everyone

Thanks rainboy! fun round.

by Zyquux Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:36 am

Welp, I wasn't expecting Trixie. gg

Discord managed to survive until the penultimate day in both this game and my MLP game. Coincidence? I think not.

Similarly, Pinkie Pie confirmed to always be a roleblocker.

EDIT: also
>tfw all of my lynches in Book 2 were spot on

by Caelun_Niveus Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:44 am

Scept's role was actually the one Rain accidentally leaked to me in what I brought up. Not specifics or fluff, just "You are a serial killer type role".

StalinCommander wrote:I used to be a vigilantie. Totally killed Cael.
I had figured if he was telling the truth he'd be protected and then he wasn't protected.
And it turns out he was both telling the truth and...wasn't protected.

Link had PMed me offering protection at the cost of a roleblock (thus possibly risking Love if they went for them). I was suspicious of Link being Mafia, so I declined and attempted to try to bluff that I was protected. I figured if Link was guilty they would kill me, and if not would target someone else. I sent a PM to Scept (who I WAS right in not being Mafia...) explaining what I did as a last words if I was right about Link.

Didn't expect the lynch pulling a 180 and jump up his ass as well as my death.

Anyway, glad best pony won.

Edit: I would like to see though all the roles for part one, as well as a full list of what happened...

by Rainboy Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:01 am

Actions:

R1:
Scept attempts to kill French (no effect since French is not Love or Darkness)
Cloak peeks Stalin and Hater and corrupts Stalin and Link. (No effect for corrupt; peek on Stalin redirected to Link)
Evil team neglects to send in a nightkill (whoops).
Nale neglects to submit a roleblock (whoops).
Zink's passive saves French from lynch, but is lost accordingly. (Nobody except Love and Darkness can be killed; power lost when a good player is lynched.)
Shadi cleanses Link and French. (No effect)
French switches Stalin and Link, effectively preventing the evil team from finding the traitor R1.
HATER redirects all actions on him to Shadi. (Anything besides a roleblock will go through Hater and hit Shadi; hereafter referred to as nexusing)
Host fails and forgets to account for the French redirect. Fortunately, the host catches this mistake in time and deletes the suspect PM.

R2:
Scept attempts to kill Stalin (no effect since French is not Love or Darkness)
Stalin kills off Cael with his own one shot.
Evil team neglects to send any actions whatsoever. (Whoops)
Link roleblocks and protects (hereafter referred to as 'jailing') French.
French neglects to send in a redirect. (But it wouldn't have worked anyway due to jail)
Hater neglects to send in nexus target.
Zyquux forces lynch on Link.
Tail gets a free peek on Cloak as part of his role. (Cloak knows he got the peek)

R3:
Scept kills Tael (no effect since not Love or Darkness)
Cloak kills Gam (bussed by French to kill Shadi instead)
Gam kills Tael (no effect since not Darkness)
Shadi cleanses Stalin and Zyquux (forces Zyq to good instead of neutral; nicely done.)
French busses Gam and Shadi

R4:
Scept attempts to kill Zyquux (fails again, same reason)
Cloak corrupts Gam and Tael
French buses Gam and Zink
Evil team neglects to send in a nightkill.
Nale still hasn't sent in a roleblock all game.
Hater doesn't send in a nexus target for the 3rd round in a row.
Book two starts; new roles for everyone. Host is tired of writing role PMs.

R5:
Scept roleblocks Zyq and kills Tael.
Nale also kills Tael.
Zink forces Nale to target Hater, but is roleblocked. (Boy, would that have changed things!)
Gam peeks Tael.
French roleblocks Zyquux.
Zyquux decides not to use his bodyguard power. (At least, I think that was intentional)
Hater tastes the Black/Musty potion and finds that it randomly redirects.
Hater uses the Green/Fragrant potion on himself and gets a peek on himself. (Nice one there, bro)
Tael kills Nale, but instead roleblocks him because he was corrupted in part one. (Irony is that his action would've saved his life if Scept hadn't also targeted him)

R6:
Stalin uses his global redirect. All kinds of crazy stuff happens to the village.
Scept tries to roleblock Hater, but is redirected to Zink.
Scept tries to kill Gam and is redirected back to Gam. (Wheee, random)
Stalin kills Gam. (Redundant, much?)
Zink forces Hater to target Nale, but is redirected to force Zyquux to target Scept (and then roleblocked on top of it, so this does nothing).
Hater attempts to use his new Prismatic/Fragrant potion on himself, but is redirected to use it on Scept (giving Trixie doublevoter status).
Hater tastes his Green/Musty potion and finds it allows the target to peek with inverted results.
Zyquux doesn't use his action, and thus isn't redirected.

R7:
Scept kills Zyquux and roleblocks Zink.
French roleblocks Hater.
Zink fails to send in a target. (Not that it mattered)
Hater tries to use his two Black/Musty potions on French and Scept, but is roleblocked.

R8:
French roleblocks Hater (who died to lynch to Scept's double vote)
Scept roleblocks French and kills him, achieving victory in a 1v1 with Zink.
Zink failed to send in a redirect. If he'd been smart, he could have redirected Scept to target himself, allowing for a village win. Oh well.

by Rainboy Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:13 am

Awards:

The Derpy Hooves award for biggest fail goes to Scept for failing to target Cloak after Cloak had been revealed as Darkness. He did much better in the second part, though, and it still worked out for him in the end.

The Fluttershy award for most AFK goes to the evil team, who was generally very bad about getting me actions. Specifically Cloak and Nale. I'll take partial responsibility for that because I strongly dislike Skype and was rarely on to answer questions and such.

The Twilight Sparkle award for best detective work goes to Tale, who correctly nailed two of the three mafia members. Too bad he was corrupted and couldn't kill Nale. That would've changed a lot!

The Rainbow Dash award for biggest plays goes to French, who successfully kept Gam alive long enough for a confused village to finally lynch Cloak. If Cloak had been more consistent at peeking each round, the evil team might have been able to figure out what French was up to and could have used Nale to block him. We'll never know for sure.

And the Discord award for most fragmented story goes to me. Sorry about that. I kept meaning to wrap certain things up, and it kept not happening. Oh well. Hope you all enjoyed the round!

by Tael Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:17 am

Rainboy wrote:Actions:
Tael kills Nale, but instead roleblocks him because he was corrupted in part one. (Irony is that his action would've saved his life if Scept hadn't also targeted him)

Round 69: Chaos Rising - Page 11 I-AM-IN-A-RAGE_DARREN

by Rainboy Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:37 am

Roles [notes in italic brackets, italics without brackets are hidden parts of the role]:

Book 1 (Shadows):

Chapter 2 (Chaos):

by Rainboy Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:44 am

And that's it. Hope you all enjoyed the round. There's a few things that caught me by surprise. Specifically, I was surprised at how little initiative Zink took to push early No Lynch given his role was kinda broken overpowered if the village played their cards right (I had hoped to encourage both large amounts of early PMing and serious discussion about no lynch with his role, two areas that I personally think this community could see some benefit in trying once in a while). I was also surprised at how long some of the rounds dragged on; I figured you all would tend to wrap stuff up faster. Finally, I was pretty surprised with the general lack of actions from some people (especially the evil team) while they were still active and posting.

Lessons I learned: If using decremental lynch, 12 hours is probably a good amount of time between reductions, instead of 24. Also, don't expect players to see the same insights about their role as you, or value certain aspects as much as you. Zink is a good example of that; he obviously didn't value the added power of a no lynch more than the suspicion that would get him in the village. Finally, I learned not to freaking host two games at once. Whew that was intense, but I made it with minimal mistakes in both games.

And now, it's 3AM... so I'm going to go to bed and read responses in the morning after my final test before Spring Break. Here's to hopin' 6 hours of sleep will be enough!

by Zyquux Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:35 am

Yeah, I was intentionally holding onto the bodyguard to try to be a hero later. Ah well. gg and good luck on your test!

6 hours of sleep is plenty. Probably too much.

by Scept Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:54 am

I only got 3 last night. Musical is a bitch this close to showtime.

by Rainboy Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:43 am

Well, 6 was just enough. Wonderful.

And sorry about that Scept, 3 sounds like not fun at all.

by Caelun_Niveus Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:37 pm

Rainboy wrote:Cael neglects to send in a protection target (whoops).

Rainboy wrote:Loyalty (Cael)
While alive and not roleblocked, Love cannot die. If Love is saved by this power, Darkness will be told your name and role.

Well, I didn't send in an action because it sounded like a passive. That, and I didn't have an option of who to target. Protect Love, or protect lovely Love.

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