Round 70: Despair Acadamey; Dangan Mafia

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Re: Round 70: Despair Acadamey; Dangan Mafia

Post by Zyquux on Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:31 pm

Sounds like Zink is a likely choice. I'll ensure his lynch so the mafia can't try to instalynch a townie.

Grash - 1 - Link
Zink - 3 - Rain, Grash, Zyquux

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Re: Round 70: Despair Acadamey; Dangan Mafia

Post by Zink120 on Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:41 pm

Sounds to me like French was rusing you Rain. He's right about one thing though - I was born to be town.
I'll put a vote on Grash, if someone could update it for me please.
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Re: Round 70: Despair Acadamey; Dangan Mafia

Post by Rainboy on Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:29 pm

Zink120 wrote:Sounds to me like French was rusing you Rain. He's right about one thing though - I was born to be town.
I'll put a vote on Grash, if someone could update it for me please.

Possible, but let's take this from two angles:

First, under the assumption that French had not turned evil, we both suspected you based on your posts. If French was still good at the time, he had no ill intent when he pointed a finger at you. He was telling the truth when he said he wanted to bait a kill, so his reason for not voting you was completely valid.

Second, under the assumption that French had turned evil, he attempted to dodge voting for you by crafting his own roleclaim so he could have an excuse not to vote for you. If you were a villager, he'd have been more than happy to start up the wagon with me since it offered him the greatest chance of surviving and got my vote off him.


So in either case, your status is shady at best. Either two villagers suspected you, or one mafia was trying to cover for you. Based on French's actions (because actions always speak louder than words), French didn't want you dead badly enough to forgo the bait play he tried (with the only reasons I can think of being either because you were both mafia, or because he was a villager and thought he could be more effective baiting a kill).

Just my two cents. If anyone sees any flaws in my logic, I welcome discussion. I just don't see anything even remotely rivaling the evidence against Zink. I'm not saying the evidence against him is particularly good, but it's the best I have at the moment.


(Updated with Zink's vote)


Grash - 2 - Link, Zink
Zink - 3 - Rain, Grash, Zyquux

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Re: Round 70: Despair Acadamey; Dangan Mafia

Post by Rainboy on Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:33 pm

StalinCommander wrote:

French Is Lynch

Wait... how did that work? Why did we coin flip if you're just gonna randomize the list?
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Re: Round 70: Despair Acadamey; Dangan Mafia

Post by Yoshi on Sat Apr 05, 2014 11:27 pm

We vote too many Town...now we gotta lynch a crook SO HOW ABOUT A ZINK TRAIN! toot toot

Grash - 2 - Link, Zink
Zink - 4 - Rain, Grash, Zyquux,Yoshi

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Re: Round 70: Despair Acadamey; Dangan Mafia

Post by StalinCommander on Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:38 am

Rainboy wrote:

Wait... how did that work? Why did we coin flip if you're just gonna randomize the list?

Because I thought the thing was going to pick a number 1-3 and it flipped three coins instead so I did that.

Regardless, Day end, Zink is lynch.

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Re: Round 70: Despair Acadamey; Dangan Mafia

Post by StalinCommander on Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:13 am


"Uh...? Upupupu! Congratulations!"

A girl suddendly picked up Monobear, imitating his voice.


"You got one of us!"


"You seem awfully happy for someone who's about to be put to death."


"I'm actually devestated that I got caught..."


"But that's what's so great...this despair.."


"I feel it coursing through my body..oh...utter defeat...and this is giving you hope...I wish I could see it crushed but knowing I won't is so...despairing...."



"....Die, you freak."

Junko bounced off to her execution with an odd spring in her step.

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An anouncement came over the gym. A shrill whine followed by an explosion, and then a deep voice.


"ALL OF YOU, COME TO THE GYM, AT ONCE!"

As the remaning students went to the gym, they saw Oogami, surrounded by wreckage of several Monobear robots.


"All of you are here....? Good...."

She turned slowly, revealing that she was covered in blood.

"This commotion...it has ensured that those against us cannot act...Take this chance as you need it!"

With a final shout, she fell, dead.

There were no night actions this night.

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Zink, Junko Enoshima, Snappy punchline
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You are Junko Enoshima. As the architect of the despair academy, you are the leader of the mafia group dedicated to destroying any trace of hope in the school. Having spent your entire life wanting to see the world drowned in despair, you have perfected the art of crushing hope. If you are not making a kill, you can visit someone, reducing their hope by 30.
Grashbar, Sakura Oogami, sacrificed themselves.
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You are Sakura Oogami. Super Higschool Level Wrestler. Easily the strongest person in the group, no one really wants to mess with you, and even if they wanted to, you can more than hold your own in a fight. You are immune to Nightkills. Hope: 0(Despair mode: The group is turning on you…you’ve always been looked upon as a terrifying hulk, and this is no different. You’re concerned, and your guard is down, you are no longer immune to nightkills. Instead, you can sacrifice yourself, drawing everyone together so that there is no night actions that night, and raise the group’s hope by 20. )

Global hope +30


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Re: Round 70: Despair Acadamey; Dangan Mafia

Post by Zink120 on Sun Apr 06, 2014 6:27 am

Sorry I wasn't a better villain you guys. One day I will learn to not sign up when I'm busy!! Haha
May the best team win ;)
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Re: Round 70: Despair Acadamey; Dangan Mafia

Post by Rainboy on Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:26 am

Thanks, Grash. We needed that.

Link's the obvious choice now, but there's one more after him that'll be harder to figure out.

I want a roleclaim out of everyone this round. I'd prefer you gave it to me in private since I think it's reasonably obvious I'm clear, but if you're not comfortable with that, a public claim will do.

Link - 1 - Rainboy
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Re: Round 70: Despair Acadamey; Dangan Mafia

Post by Link Lab on Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:11 am

Wait, why am I the obvious choice instead of Zyq or Yoshi?
We can agree that you and Gamage are innocent. I can now be sure that there is no possibility that the mafia were using Zyq as a scapegoat as he would either be Yoshi's/my teammate or I would've agreed with Grash yesterday and won the game with a bandwagon on him.

Anyway, there's no point not to go public unless we wanted to lie about our role. I'm a watcher. I see who else targetted my target. First night, I saw no one targeted French. Second Night, I saw nothing because Cloak unexpectedly got lynched (His second vote came after I went off for the night). Third Night, I saw Zink targeted Grash. Last night, while in despair mode, I obviously saw nothing. My despair mode meant that I had a 30% chance of killing anyone that targeted my target but would stop the night action whether I killed or not.

Zyq votan.

Link - 1 - Rainboy
Zyq - 1 - Link
Total - 2/5

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Re: Round 70: Despair Acadamey; Dangan Mafia

Post by Gam on Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:47 pm

I'm putting faith in my partner. Also link voted for me twice this game.

Link - 2 - Rainboy, Gamage
Zyq - 1 - Link
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Re: Round 70: Despair Acadamey; Dangan Mafia

Post by Zyquux on Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:16 pm

Well as you already know I'm a double voter. Looks like Link is up to the chopping block.

Link - 3 - Rainboy, Gamage, Zyquux
Zyq - 1 - Link
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Re: Round 70: Despair Acadamey; Dangan Mafia

Post by Rainboy on Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:33 pm

First off, Link and Yoshi are the remaining mafia. I am 90% sure of this. Long post worth of details below, but that's the short of it.


So, the final vote for yesterday was:
Grash - 2 - Link, Zink
Zink - 4 - Rain, Grash, Zyquux, Yoshi

Gam didn't vote either way, but I know he's safe because we're masons. Grash is dead and obviously village. That means two of Link, Yoshi and Zyquux are mafia.

So assuming Link isn't mafia, that means that the mafia yesterday could've easily hammered out an instalynch on Grash with their 3 (or 4, if you count Zuq as double) votes on him in addition to link's one. And they had plenty of opportunity to do so too: Link's vote was first, and both Yoshi and Zyquux voted after him and after the bandwagon was already forming on Zink. There's really no reason for them to vote off Zink unless they were afraid of vote shenanigans, which they had no reason to be afraid of when they have a freakin' double voter on their team. Thus, Link must be mafia as that's the only situation where it wouldn't be possible for them to make an instalynch on Grash. Without a villager voting with Zink and Link, the final mafia ran for cover and hammered Zink instead of putting it all on the line.

So there's one, but that still leaves a toss up between Zyquux and Yoshi. So here's my evidence:

  1. If Zyquux kept his double vote even after French's death, the mafia would've still had enough to hammer (or at least force a coin flip, if Gam had voted) last round. The fact that Zyquux followed along with the wagon suggests that he lost his double voter status, is village, or both. So if Zyquux is still a double voter, Yoshi is much more likely to be mafia.
  2. Yoshi voted last, when it was more sure that Zink was up for lynch. It would've taken much more guts for a mafia Zyq to cast the tiebreaker that round than a mafia Yoshi to pile on for the instalynch.
  3. You'll notice that two rounds ago, Tael was nightkilled even though he was tied for lynch. This is because the tie was due to Zyquux's secret vote. So why would Zyquux, as mafia, attempt to kill someone who he knew had a 33% chance of being lynched? That's a 33% chance to completely waste a kill. If he was mafia and wanted to kill Tael, he could've just voted anyone else in the game and done it.
  4. The vote itself is the core of the village's power. The entire game is based around mafia having a minority in the village vote, so giving the mafia a double voter, while still quite doable, is still extremely powerful. Given the power level we've seen thusfar, I think it would be overpowered to give the mafia a double voter.


So with all of that, I'm reasonably sure that Yoshi is our final man here. I could be wrong, so PLEASE check up on my logic and see if you can find anything else of note, but as it stands, I'm pretty sure Zyq is village and Yoshi is mafia.
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Re: Round 70: Despair Acadamey; Dangan Mafia

Post by Yoshi on Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:05 pm

I can debunk this by saying that I'm not mafia,i'm a tool user or inventor,I used one of my tools on rain and found him innocent,I bussed myself and zink one night and got blocked recently...I'm not mafia but i'm sure someone is either lieing or rain is a godfather. Either way i'm going to help off link.

Link - 4 - Rainboy, Gamage, Zyquux, Yoshi
Zyq - 1 - Link
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Re: Round 70: Despair Acadamey; Dangan Mafia

Post by StalinCommander on Mon Apr 07, 2014 1:48 am

Oi.

got caught up in things and didn't realize the time. Update coming in the morning. Ive wasted alot of time and need to do this homework I never did.

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Re: Round 70: Despair Acadamey; Dangan Mafia

Post by StalinCommander on Mon Apr 07, 2014 4:40 pm


"Upupupu! I am...Not late! Not late at all!"


"You're an awful liar."


"Maybe So! But I have an excuse!"


" I mean, a super highschool level mercenary takes some time to take down!"

They looked around. Sure enough one of the students was already gone.


"Especially when your operator is dead!"

Before anyone could ask how exactly he was running without an operator he dissapears.

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" I knew it...."

Togami turns around, seeing the black figure stepping out of the shadows.


"I'm surprised you havn't come for me sooner."  


"What do you mean, Togami?"  


"I wouldn't go for you without a full flush in my deck."

Pulling one of her fallen teamate's rifle's from under her coat she blasts the rich boy out.

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Link, Mukuro Ikusaba, was dead a while ago, actually.
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You are Mukuro Ikusaba.  Part 2 of the despair sisters and Super Highschool Level Mercenary,  you are the fighting force behind the team.   Your only goal is your sister’s happiness, and that can be brought by bringing death and despair. So you bring just that.  You are a master of combat,  and cannot be nightkilled.  However, if your sister were to be targeted for a nightkill, you would give your life for her and take the attacker down instead of the regular nightkill.  

Rainboy, Byakuya Togami, Bit off more than he could chew.
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"You are Byakuya Togami. Super Higschool Level Perfection Heir. You are the Heir to the Togami Conglomorate, one of the most powerful corporations in the world. You keep your calm.You keep your life. You also have a crazy girl at your beck and call. Fukawa (????) trusts you implicitly. You could survive this with your hands tied behind your back, so long as Fukawa is alive, your hope does not deplete. When she does die, however, It drops by 50. Hope: 50 ( Despair Mode

Global Hope +10 unless role says otherwise.

I'm not sure if I should extend this day or not. Sorry ofr lateness.

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Re: Round 70: Despair Acadamey; Dangan Mafia

Post by Gam on Mon Apr 07, 2014 5:34 pm

StalinCommander wrote:
I'm not sure if I should extend this day or not. Sorry ofr lateness.

An extension would be appreciated. As for yoshi and zyq, what do you two have to say for yourselves.
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Re: Round 70: Despair Acadamey; Dangan Mafia

Post by Yoshi on Mon Apr 07, 2014 5:57 pm

I just investigated zyq,he came up guilty.

Zyq -1- Yoshi

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Re: Round 70: Despair Acadamey; Dangan Mafia

Post by Zyquux on Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:23 pm

Well Rain died, so he must be onto something.

Zyq -1- Yoshi
Yoshi - 1 - Zyquux

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Re: Round 70: Despair Acadamey; Dangan Mafia

Post by Gam on Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:43 pm

Yoshi wrote:I just investigated zyq,he came up guilty.

Oh boy, I finally get to use this.  

Picard Facepalm 

I was going to give yoshi a chance, but damn I don't need to after that.

Zyq -1- Yoshi
Yoshi - 2 - Zyquux, Gam

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Re: Round 70: Despair Acadamey; Dangan Mafia

Post by Yoshi on Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:05 pm

What? wait i'm serious,one of my items let's me investigate someone,zyq came up guilty!Why the hell are you doubting me!
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Re: Round 70: Despair Acadamey; Dangan Mafia

Post by StalinCommander on Tue Apr 08, 2014 12:02 am

Game end, Surprise ending.


Check it in a slight.

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Re: Round 70: Despair Acadamey; Dangan Mafia

Post by StalinCommander on Tue Apr 08, 2014 12:27 am

"Uhh....? So there's only four of three of you left?"

"So much for that whole "Not killing business!"

Monobear looked around at the remaining students.


"....."


"....."


"What are we standing here for?"


"Let's kill the Yasu boy!"


"W-wait wait, you can't just- I know! I know it's Celes, right!"


"Napoleon's ghost told me so!!!"


"It doesn't really matter now. The cards were in my favor the whole time. "


"Now, DIE BOTH OF YOU SMELLY FREAKS!"

Celestia pulls the rifle out again, shooting the lanky fortune teller square in the chest and turning to Fukawa.

But she wasn't there. Instead she pops up behind Celes.

"Oh Ludu~! I know you killed my white knight!"


"AND I'LL SLIT YOUR THROAT FOR IT!"

And so she did.


"....That was unexpected! But everyone's dead! You win!"

Monobear finally opens the door, letting the love starved serial killer back into the world.

And she lived happily ever after.

GAME OVER.
GENOCIDER SYO WIN.



And this was shaping up to be one of the only games I've done without a 3rd party win too.


Remaning roles:

Gamage, ToukouFukawa, Was the winrar.
Spoiler:
You are Tokou Fukawa. Super Highschool Level Wrighter. You’ve always imagined life is going to be like the romantic novels you wrote, and you found him, your prince, the one who you’ll do anything for and he’ll take you in his arms and treat you like a princess in return. Togami (Rainboy) of course, treats you like shit, but, give him time, he’ll warm up to you. So long as you have your prince, your hope will not lower. As soon as he’s dead, however, it will drop to 0. Hope: 50
(Despair Mode: Tokou Fukawa has an alter ego. Genocider Syo. The serial killer who slays and crucifies young men, men Fukawa loved. But the love of both of their lives has just been taken down by someone else. And Syo will find who did it and kill them. The only way to make sure she gets the right one is to kill everyone here! You may make one kill per night, and win when only you and one person remains.)


Zyquux, Celestia Ludenburg, Was really obvious like halfway through it.
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You are Celestia Ludenburg. Queen of Liars, Super Highschool level gambler. The most important thing in a game of chance is luck. The next most important thing is the ability to be something you’re not. So for the chance to get out of this school and on with your life, you will be a killer. With your ability to manipulate you have a certain Hifumi Yamada wrapped around your fingers, you control his vote. So long as Yamada is alive, your vote counts for two. Your allies are Junko Enoshima(Zink) and Mukuro Ikusaba

Yoshi, Yasuhiro Hagakure, Was right that entire time. Not that it made much of a difference.
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You are Yasuhiro Hagakure! Super Highschool Level Fortune Teller, right? You are what you are, and what you are is weirdly sceptical for a fortune teller. And exactly as aloof and confused as you'd expect a 20 year old highschooler to be. You've got several mystic devices (Things you bought from shady people for way too much) passed down from historical greats! (Shady person's uncle.) You're...not sure what they do, though. Select a letter and a person to use a random effect on them. Hope Score: 20

A- (Napoleon's Crystal ball. Reveals person's alignment.)
B- (George Washington's bagpipes. Roleblocks person.)
C- ( Cleopatra's ball of yarn. Protects person.)
D- (Elvis' wig. Bus Drives self and person.)

(Despair Mode: You know one thing, and one thing only, that you're the only one who can be trusted! And you're not even sure of that! Your devices change effect.
A – Same
B – Jails
C – Kills
D – Nexus' person.


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Re: Round 70: Despair Acadamey; Dangan Mafia

Post by StalinCommander on Tue Apr 08, 2014 12:32 am

Night One-
Cloak – Roleblock French
Tael – Investigate  Cloak  
Yoshi -  Roleblock Scept
Zyquux – Kill Scept

Night 2 -
Yoshi – Investigate Rainboy
Cloak – Roleblock Yoshi
Zink - Kill – Axel

Night 3 -
Yoshi - Nexus – Zink
Tael – Investigate Yoshi
Link - Kill Tael  
Zink – Despair grash

Night 4 -

Zink – Kill Rainboy
Yoshi – Protect  Link
No night actions, grashpower.

Night 5 -
Zyquux -  Kill rainboy
Yoshi – Investigate Zyquux.

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Re: Round 70: Despair Acadamey; Dangan Mafia

Post by StalinCommander on Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:09 am

Hagakure Award for Legitimate Basis of a Wrong Conclusion: Rainboy! You win that one. And you accured Hagakure too. And just like Hagakure would have done you missed one very big obvious thing that points you the way you need to go, but thought up a totally reasonable coherrent path to accuse someone else.

Naegi Award for SHSL Good(Bad?) Luck: Zyquux! I tried to make Mafia doublevoter balanced by giving it the risk/reward thing. Yes you have two votes, but one fuck up and your cover's blown. Zyquux's cover should have been blown two days in but somehow everyone missed it. Good luck!
....And then to have the win robbed by a sudden serial killer...
Bad luck.

Kirigiri Award for being ignored despite being right: Yoshi! I thought he had struck a damn good score by investigating the masons night 2, but Rain's different style of playing means that any PMs are to be taken very hesitantly, and "You're innocent I investigated you" is more often than not a ruse. So, despite being divinely blessed by the spirit of Napoleon, Yoshi got lynched.

Togami award for MVP I have to give this to Link! Despite his being lynched, he was doing all he could to help his team succeed, and drawing the attention off Zyquux certainly helped with that.

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