Round 28: Furry Mafia: Let the Fur Fly!

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Re: Round 28: Furry Mafia: Let the Fur Fly!

Post by DA on Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:11 am

>Cloak hosts this round
>don't expect Cloaklogic
>complain about Cloaklogic.
Stay classy, gents.

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Re: Round 28: Furry Mafia: Let the Fur Fly!

Post by Cloak on Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:18 am

Hush you, you don't exist in this round.
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Re: Round 28: Furry Mafia: Let the Fur Fly!

Post by Zyquux on Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:42 am

Spoiler:
Stalin wrote:Night 1
Protect Ment
Night 2
Bus Pheonix and Leo
Night 3
Investigate Vat
Night 4
Bulletproof
spplmj wrote:Night 1
Vat and Stalin
Night 2
Ment and Leo
Night 3
Ment and Phonics
Night 4
Phonics and Zyq

But I watched Ment Night One.
Presumably, that means he was driven be someone or Stalin is lying.

Night Two, I watched Leo and saw that Ment was where Leo was supposed to be. From these role claims, the mafia either targeted Ment or Phoenix for the kill.

Night 3, I watched myself (yes, this is allowed; Cloak confirmed it) and got nothing.

Last night, I watched Scept, but was blocked.

Spoiler:
Phoenix wrote:Two nights ago I protected Scept, which was why we had no night kill. Last night I protected spp, so his bus driving was nulled. I still trust Stalin and Zyq, and now Spp, so that means the only 2 left are Link and Mentle. So my original suspicions were correct.
Scept wrote:Investigated again. Survey says: EVEN MORE JACK.
That gives more credence to Phoenix's role claim.

Based on these: I believe Phoenix and Spp are indeed telling the truth.

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Scept wrote:I investigated YOU [Nyu] last night [Night 2]. And it turned up JACK.
So Scept probably got blocked that night. Therefore, there is another roleblocker (but we already knew that).
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Re: Round 28: Furry Mafia: Let the Fur Fly!

Post by Cloak on Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:31 am

Zyquux wrote:
Night 3, I watched myself (yes, this is allowed; Cloak confirmed it) and got nothing.

Even if this isn't usually allowed, I'm choosing to allow it.
Because reasons spoilers etc.
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Re: Round 28: Furry Mafia: Let the Fur Fly!

Post by Link Lab on Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:03 am

Great. My net is down. On phone fof now. Do not really know what is happening. Spp votan since I think that saves me. Can someone update the table for me plz?

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Re: Round 28: Furry Mafia: Let the Fur Fly!

Post by Zyquux on Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:31 am

Link vote to try to save spp since I think he's innocent. (inb4 he's mafia and I'm an idiot)

Link - 2 - Mentlegen, Zyquux
Mentle - 1 - Phoenix
Cheif Spplmj - 2 - Stalin, Link
Abstain - 2 - Zyquux, spplmj

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Re: Round 28: Furry Mafia: Let the Fur Fly!

Post by Link Lab on Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:16 am

Ok, I've got my net back. Looking over the thread, I...............know I've had it. I always get so close then it always falls to pieces right at the end. I knew it would considering my teammate is an idiot but I hoped it wouldn't. It surprises me that he even survived this long. Welp, let's get this over with. Link votan.
Engage Instalynch.

Link - 4 - Mentlegen, Phoenix, Zyquux, Link
Cheif Spplmj - 1 - Stalin
Abstain - 1 - spplmj
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Re: Round 28: Furry Mafia: Let the Fur Fly!

Post by StalinCommander on Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:00 am

Zyquux wrote:[spoiler]
Stalin wrote:Night 1
Protect Ment
Night 2
Bus Pheonix and Leo
Night 3
Investigate Vat
Night 4
Bulletproof


But I watched Ment Night One.
Presumably, that means he was driven be someone or Stalin is lying.


I know you targeted Ment first night.
I counterclaimed when you said you did yesterday, I said I targeted him first night too, and you should have seen me visit him.

Table update for link.

Link - 2 - Mentlegen, Phoenix
Cheif Spplmj - 2 - Stalin, Link
Abstain - 2 - Zyquux, spplmj

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[12:55:11 AM] Zyquux: inb4 stalin is playing us all

Zyquux wrote:From now on, I'm voting Stalin day one.
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Re: Round 28: Furry Mafia: Let the Fur Fly!

Post by spplmj on Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:15 am

sounds like a confession if I ever heard one

Link - 5 - Mentlegen, Zyquux, Phonics, Link, Spplmj,
Cheif Spplmj - 1 - Stalin

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Re: Round 28: Furry Mafia: Let the Fur Fly!

Post by StalinCommander on Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:24 am

Wait link confessed.
How did I not notice that.
Vote changing.

Link - 6 - Mentlegen, Zyquux, Phonics, Link, Spplmj, Stalin


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Zyquux wrote:From now on, I'm voting Stalin day one.
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Re: Round 28: Furry Mafia: Let the Fur Fly!

Post by Mentle on Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:20 pm

I'm pretty sure that when I looked back at our thread I noticed that one of two people that are alive had to be lying (unless more cloaklogic happened), but now I can't remember who and where...

The shenanigans of this round are annoying, let's get this over with.
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Re: Round 28: Furry Mafia: Let the Fur Fly!

Post by Cloak on Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:29 pm

Welp, Instalynch closes it, but no time to update now.
Expect it later.
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Re: Round 28: Furry Mafia: Let the Fur Fly!

Post by Cloak on Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:28 pm

The Mayors mood had improved somewhat over the course of the day. “It's that time again, lets-” “Hold your breath. I'm turning myself in.” Everyone looked at Link in shock. “It was funny watching you squirm. Besides, you all figured me out anyway.” “Well then, I guess this makes today easy. Come get your handcuffs.” He walked up to the podium. “Oh, right, one thing I want to play for everyone first.” He took out a recorder and hit Play. A high-pitched squeal filled the room. A certain pigs face turned completely red. “GAHAHAHAHA! Worth it just for that squeal! I don't know how you haven't spotted our team idiot, but if HE can finish you off, I'll be embarrassed as hell.” He went off down the hall, laughing to himself like a mad man. “Alright. One more left, apparently. Polls reopen tomorrow morning. It's almost over, everyone. Good night.” And thus, the remaining participants went home for the night.

Somewhere, a lone predator plotted his night out. What? You thought he'd be talking to himself? That would be crazy.

“Oh, come on, you haven't seen ANYTHING on that stupid computer. Are you SURE you can't leave?” “Yes, I'm ABSOLUTELY SURE I can't leave my post.” “Ugh. Fine. I guess I'll talk to you late-” “Hello? Spp? You there?” there was no response. “Huh. Guess he hung up. Oh well.” In actuality, the phone line had been cut. Up in an apartment in the city, no screams were heard as Spp met his bitter end.

Out at the cemetary, there were 2 figures dressed in black. *sigh* “Are you sure we should be doing this now? One of them is still on the loose...” “If we don't do it now, we might not get the chance later.” They each placed some flowers on the graves in front of them. The graves read “Zink”, “Leo”, and “Scept”. “I hope we don't have to make any more trips out here...” “If only we were so lucky.” “If only...”

The next morning, almost everyone was at the polls right on time. “Alright. We only have one more of them to get rid of. In memory of those they've taken, let's end this.”

REPORT ATC 9-420

Another Predator lynched. The Prey have pulled themselves together. The question is, can they find the last Predator before he finishes them off? Time shall tell.

P.S. The boys in the Breeding Labs will be happy to know that the Landshark did not meet the same fate as the squirrel. I hear it's quite expensive to breed them.

Even Prey can be fierce when cornered.

Link has sharp teeth and a familiar laugh
Spoiler:
You are a swift, merciless SHARK.
There's blood in the water, and that drew you in from a mile away.
Every night, you can scare the holy living shit out of someone and disrupt whatever it is they were doing for the night.

Spp should have gone wireless
Spoiler:
You are a mysterious PLATYPUS
You may be the "Spare Parts" animal, but that doesn't stop you from doing... er... whatever it is you do.
You know what? Fuck it. You're the bus driver.
Go kick ass.
WHAT HE WASN'T TOLD: Due to his dedication to the law, the Watcher [REDACTED] will not leave his post, and thus, cannot be bussed. (There's more, but spoilers).

SIXTH DAY BEGIN


EDIT: Also, technically it's LyLo. Have fun, Kids.
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Re: Round 28: Furry Mafia: Let the Fur Fly!

Post by Zyquux on Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:01 pm

EDIT: VOTING FOR NO LYNCH

No Lynch - 1 - Zyquux

1/4
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Re: Round 28: Furry Mafia: Let the Fur Fly!

Post by StalinCommander on Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:13 pm

Investigated Ment last night. He's innocent.
The only person left who isn't confirmed.
Pheonix voting.

Pheonix - 1 - Stalin
Noodle Caboodle - 1- Zyquux
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Re: Round 28: Furry Mafia: Let the Fur Fly!

Post by Mentle on Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:50 pm

Just something I think I should add...we will have to decide between Stalin and Phoenix.

If Phoenix is mafia, that means that we had a round with no Doctor/Jailkeeper/Bodyguard, something that is highly doubtful.
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Re: Round 28: Furry Mafia: Let the Fur Fly!

Post by CodePhoenix on Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:05 pm

Stalin mafia. Heres how. He knows I have the jailkeeper/doctor role. Third day he said he bussed me with Leo. I told him my role, but not who I targeted that night, which was Scept. No night kill then, meaning my powers worked. Then I tell him, and suggests I protect spp. I tell him why not protect scept again since they know hes innocent and protected, but most likely wont be protected the next night. He tells me that logic wont work. Next night, Scept dies. He also says he investigated Vat and got Mafia. Odds with investigation like that are a tad slim, but he could of got the info by sacrificing fellow mafia to keep himself innocent and to continue to use me.

Stalin votan.

Phoenix - 1 - Stalin
Stalin - 1 - Phoenix
No Lynch - 1 - Zyquux

3/4
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Re: Round 28: Furry Mafia: Let the Fur Fly!

Post by spplmj on Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:31 pm

GOD DAMN IT! I JUST FIGURED IT ALL OUT! THE SCUM IS...
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Re: Round 28: Furry Mafia: Let the Fur Fly!

Post by Mentle on Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:49 pm

I've been wondering, (and I can't get absolutely anything out of Cloak's writing on night 3 update): if Pheonix is lying, how did we have no kills that night?
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Re: Round 28: Furry Mafia: Let the Fur Fly!

Post by StalinCommander on Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:03 pm

Ment you were switched with Pheonix last night.
Perhaps he switched the kill to himself and because Cloak it resulted in no night kill instead of "Holy shit I've killed myself."

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Zyquux wrote:From now on, I'm voting Stalin day one.
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Re: Round 28: Furry Mafia: Let the Fur Fly!

Post by CodePhoenix on Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:10 pm

StalinCommander wrote:Ment you were switched with Pheonix last night.
Perhaps he switched the kill to himself and because Cloak it resulted in no night kill instead of "Holy shit I've killed myself."

...what? Mafia can kill themselves? That doesn't work even with cloak logic...
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Re: Round 28: Furry Mafia: Let the Fur Fly!

Post by Mentle on Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:48 pm

StalinCommander wrote:Ment you were switched with Pheonix last night.
Perhaps he switched the kill to himself and because Cloak it resulted in no night kill instead of "Holy shit I've killed myself."

Yet the update acts like the predator went after the victim but his target was out of home.
If Cloak decided to nerf the Bus Driver when it's so hard to make someone kill himself, I think he would at least have the decency to update in a way that could show the predator's confusion.

Phoenix wrote:...what? Mafia can kill themselves? That doesn't work even with cloak logic...

Bus Drivers can normally make night killers kill themselves (to death) by switching the killer's target and the killer himself.
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Re: Round 28: Furry Mafia: Let the Fur Fly!

Post by Zyquux on Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:59 pm

Phoenix wrote:...what? Mafia can kill themselves? That doesn't work even with cloak logic...

But that's one third of the reason why KND mafia ended on Night 2.
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Re: Round 28: Furry Mafia: Let the Fur Fly!

Post by Archer on Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:07 am

Zyquux wrote:
Phoenix wrote:...what? Mafia can kill themselves? That doesn't work even with cloak logic...

But that's one third of the reason why KND mafia ended on Night 2.

Oops, did I do that?
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Re: Round 28: Furry Mafia: Let the Fur Fly!

Post by Mentle on Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:29 pm

Welp, nothing seems to be happening...there are plenty of reasons to suspect both Stalin and Pheonix after all.

Phonics:
-Had a really suspicious behavior overall, because it was completely different than usual, not forcing ties or randomly jumping on the bandwagon. Randomly going for me when I had no votes could be his way to avoid being on the group that was going to lynch a townie.
-If he really was trying to use Stalin, he would have no option when Stalin investigated Vat, what would explain his vote on his mafia partner.
-The Jailkeeper role (Protects/Roleblocks at the same time) would be a SMASHING claim if your mafia partner was a roleblocker, as you'd know who was getting blocked and use that in your favor, by claiming he was your target that night.

Stalin:
-Based on the roles present in this game and the number of mafiosi, it's way more plausible that no Jack-of-all-trades role exists than that no protective role exists. We didn't have a single townie killed revealed as a Doctor/Jailkeeper/Bodyguard. Jack-of-all-trades is a way more rare role, and in a game with 13 people it's an excellent choice for a fakeclaim, as the chances of having a townie with that role are small. All of this would normally have more weight, but we know Cloak didn't balance the game well, so we can never be sure.
-If Pheonix is mafia like he claims, there is no good explanation on why we had no kill on night 3. The only explanation Stalin provided is that the bus drive might have made Phonics try to kill himself, and Cloak didn't allow suicide, yet the way bus drives work in our rounds and that day's update don't reflect any of that. If Cloak intended to make the story completely unrelated to the actual actions, he probably wouldn't make a story that screams "Jailkeeper".

-More importantly, on night 4 both Zyq and Spp were roleblocked. With Draco dead, the only roleblocker was Link (Mafia Roleblocker), yet two people were blocked that night...not only that but Phonics claimed to have caused spp's block before spp revealed he was blocked and after Zyq did. Stalin didn't claim having roleblocker powers that night, so the only explanation (other than a really fucked up hidden power that gives you a fucking misleading "you were blocked" message) is that we had someone other than Link with roleblocking powers, and that works with Pheonix's claim.

I've noticed and linked that last and heavier argument on the Mafia Chat yesterday, but everyone who could discuss was kind of dead and Stalin didn't provide any explanation. The reason I didn't vote Stalin yet is because of Phonix's sloppy behavior when PM'd and his overall actions during this round (basically, if he really is mafia he was indeed terrible and it would be sad to let him win), but we are extending a round that just didn't work, so I'd rather finish this already, winning or losing.

The Usurper role could explain some actions and part of the balance but, unfortunately, it works for both of them. I might be missing something really obvious and taking conclusions without thinking, but I don't feel like thinking things over or reading the story.

tl;dr: there are reasons to lynch both of them a dozen times, but the more concrete evidence, ignoring the possibility of fucked up hidden powers, points to Stalin as the last mafia.

Stalinvotan, let's get this over with and facepalm.

Phoenix - 1 - Stalin
Stalin - 2 - Phoenix, Mentlegen
No Lynch - 1 - Zyquux

4/4

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