Re: Round 22: Mafia Girl Quest!

by Mentle Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:55 pm

Roles of the survivors/spp and details of other roles:

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by Mentle Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:00 pm

spplmj wrote:So wait when Vat watched Leo the first time did he essentially get a copy of Haru's role? meaning that he found out that both Leo and Haru were both innocent?

No, he simply found out about Haru's alignment, and was forbidden of revealing his own role or that he knew of Haru's innocence through PMs.

Haru was the only difference between Vat's role and the default Watcher, as Vat could actually find out Haru's alignment, even if that roleblocked his Watcher powers.

Prizes soon.

by Mentle Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:18 pm

PRIZES:

Random Choice of Chaos: Scept. His completely random choice of switching Spp and Pheonix resulted in Link, originally going for one of the targets he could actually eat on the first night, attacking the only target that would get him killed, eliminating one of the most important roles in this round.

Alice's "...idiot." Medal: I think we all know the winner. Pheonix, unsatisfied with screwing the town only a thousand times, decided it was a good idea to force ties for no good reason, even though the past rounds proved that this behavior commonly helps third-party roles or the mafia, and doing it right after the round he did the same...as mafia.

He also gets a F in probability for thinking that he had less chances of being mafia in this round simply because he was in the last one.

Finally, the best part: he had voted for Cloak (Chimera Alpha) to save himself. As the rest of the mafia had already voted and Cloak had more votes, a vote switch to save Cloak could be seen as suspicious...but then Pheonix happened. By switching his vote he reduced the chance of Cloak getting lynched to 1/3, but his silly behavior convinced the town to jump on him, assuring a mafioso would be safe and wasting a lynch.

-Honorable mention goes to the mafia. They've used Nyu (for the third time in a row), to carry out the kill after she was accused of being mafia, after Leo revealed his roleblocking powers.

Most Effective Ineffective Power Usage: It goes to Stalin. He always used his powers right when the day started, without waiting for suspicious behavior, accusations or roleclaims, yet even though his investigative role was inferior to an alignment cop and much inferior to the default cop, he got positive results on 2 out of 3 mafiosos.

Gnome Prize: Zink. Didn't speak much when was around, and was completely silent for several days due to a trip that apparently lasted longer than expected.

-Honorable mention to DA, who did mention he would be kind of busy but could have wasted a few seconds to choose targets on night one and two, as the Mermaid's power was only limited when she successfuly saved a player.

Most Popular Player: Leo, by far. He was targetted 9 times in 5 days, and was Spp's current target for the sixth night, had the game not ended.

MVP: Stalin again. Got positive results on 2 out of the 3 mafiosi with an investigative role weaker than an alignment cop.

-Honorable mention to Vat, who also had a really hard investigative role (Watcher) yet would get Nyu on the first night if targetting Leo didn't result in Haru blocking him, and even so he got a semi-mason. Vat was actually able to find out that Nyu was mafia on the second night, but didn't pay attention and missed the fact that his powers were blocked when he found Haru on the first night, making Leo think he was a mafioso trying to cover Zyq.

by **StalinCommander** Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:24 pm

Most Effective Ineffective Power Usage: It goes to Stalin. He always used his powers right when the day started, without waiting for suspicious behavior, accusations or roleclaims, yet even though his investigative role was inferior to an alignment cop and much inferior to the default cop, he got positive results on 2 out of 3 mafiosos.

I didn't wait untill later in the day for suspicious behavior because
A: First night, I didn't know it would activate in the day, and chose DA as a default choice
B: I had seen their suspicious behavior the previous day.

And it worked, did it not?

by **Leo E.** Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:25 pm

For the record, I tried to goad Nyu into making the kill that night. I actually realized Vat was innocent, and then began to doubt myself on Zyquux, but kept going with it so that Nyu would feel safe making the kill.

Guess it worked well enough.

by Hunter Axel Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:44 pm

Good show, good show.

As usual, Leo leads the town for victory for another round. Excellent job.
...now about that time you lynched me...

by **Leo E.** Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:48 pm

Hunter Axel wrote:Good show, good show.

As usual, Leo leads the town for victory for another round. Excellent job.
...now about that time you lynched me...

A: You insisted that Elvetie was a heavenly knight. That's mafia behavior if I've ever seen it.
B: Six tails? You thought you could get by with SIX TAILS?!

by Hunter Axel Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:57 pm

Leo E. wrote:A: You insisted that Elvetie was a heavenly knight. That's mafia behavior if I've ever seen it.
B: Six tails? You thought you could get by with SIX TAILS?!

A: I got my info from the wiki. I take no responsibility for referencing what the wiki says.

B: No. I was hoping to get by with six tails AND an ahoge (...and summon spirits but that's not important). But would you let me reach that stage? Nooooo...

Okay but seriously, nice job again Leo and no hard feelings.

by **Leo E.** Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:08 am

...Well, it's the first day... mafia is almost never lynched on the first day...

Though unlike Phoenix, you actually had a role to claim.

by Nyu-Shark Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:12 am

To also mention I didn't choose to kill the first night, it just happened without my notice.

by spplmj Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:18 am

Nyu's hidden role was still a load of bullshit IMO

by Mentle Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:41 am

spplmj wrote:Nyu's hidden role was still a load of bullshit IMO

If that event didn't exist, I would have to search for another way to give a little advantage to the weak as hell town.

The event that activates that hidden role assures the mafia will still have a night kill, unless Cassandra can already kill you (what can't happen before night 4). Salamander's vigilante kill denied it's passive, making it only useful against you if Axel was completely sure about you being mafia and no one trusted him, so the night kill interruption happening without anyone getting killed at night was an event that would hardly ever happen. It is also a one-time event, not to mention that Vat would get Nyu on the second day even if this event didn't exist.

Your passive and Nyu's "tier" basically made Cassandra an early game helper, the town was simply lucky that Scept caused her death, but the mafia was also lucky enough to get rid of Axel on the first day.

I think this was still the least powerful town we had in the new forums, and if one side was underpowered it were them, not the mafia. They had no reliable investigation roles, and both could lead to suspicion on innocent players, three vanilla townies and one role worse than that. People suspected you and Cloak even before they had used any powers that could unmask you.

It were your choices and behavior and the experience of the townie players that made you lose.

by **Link Lab** Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:37 am

DAMN YOU SCEPT, DAMN YOU TO HELL!

In all seriousness, well played guys. Glad my death served a purpose. I just wish I could've survived more than one night. Second time I've died night 1 in as many rounds and I mean that in 2 ways.

by Zink120 Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:35 am

Mentle wrote:
PRIZES:
Gnome Prize: Zink. Didn't speak much when was around, and was completely silent for several days due to a trip that apparently lasted longer than expected.

I am ashamed. Don't fly with Air China!

by Mentle Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:20 am

Zink120 wrote:I am ashamed. Don't fly with Air China!

In the end the town worked surprisingly well and had an easy victory, so no need to be. I was just surprised because I thought you'd be out for a single day.

by Zink120 Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:18 am

Yay, I won by doing nothing! ^___^
But yeah, I should have been more specific I guess. I was travelling for around 32 hours, and then when I finally arrived home I was so destroyed that mafia was hardly on my mind...

by Scept Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:41 pm

...So it appears I almost screwed the townies over. Well.

by Mentle Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:49 pm

Scept wrote:...So it appears I almost screwed the townies over. Well.

Not really, your first switch killed the Serial Killer that gave the mafia a huge advantage, so you might have randomly saved the town.

Looking back now things were a bit too easy for the mafia with all the Serial Killer limitations, I considered the possibility of Axel's role being taken out at the start, but I kind of ignored the chance that no one would trust weak investigative roles.

by **Leo E.** Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:51 pm

Mentle wrote:Looking back now things were a bit too easy for the mafia with all the Serial Killer limitations, I considered the possibility of Axel's role being taken out at the start, but I kind of ignored the chance that no one would trust weak investigative roles.

If you're talking about Stalin, I still didn't entirely trust him at the end (and was taking precautions to make sure the town wasn't entirely screwed if he was lying), but was willing to listen to him because I already suspected he was an investigator before I contacted him.

by Mentle Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:05 pm

Leo E. wrote:
If you're talking about Stalin, I still didn't entirely trust him at the end (and was taking precautions to make sure the town wasn't entirely screwed if he was lying), but was willing to listen to him because I already suspected he was an investigator before I contacted him.

I was talking about how Stalin could end up revealing his role as soon as he found something, end up killed and leave 2 mafiosi, leaving only a Watcher behind. Watcher role requires the player to guess the victim, so it's pretty hard to get mafiosi, although thanks to your popularity Vat was able to do so.

by DA Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:40 pm

Hey wait a minute! The next round already started!
Why didn't either Leo or me locked this thread!?

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