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Post by French Connections on Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:42 am

Caelun_Niveus wrote:I'm going to try and investigate French again tonight, see if I might be insane and get a different result.  I encourage Zyq to do the same.

Strangely enough, I think that multiple people identifying the same target is a waste. Especially given that even if you're a confused PI, it might be RNG based. The no-lynch plan revolves around Sherlock revealing your roles after death. If you are a confused townie though it might be worth peeking the same target every round to find out. HOWEVER if it turns out that you're not a confused PI, you're in fact screwing over the town massively.
Strangely enough, the sane and the insane PIs are the most useful town roles (of equal strength) in terms of identifying Mafia, and it should Mafia's priority to kill them or Sherlock first (though Sherlock is more of a late-game role while the PIs are early game).
The Naive PI is useful for finding a safe townie amongst the other players as well as Moriarty.
And the 2 confused PIs are essentially liabilities to the town (not your fault guys; it's the role) and should die asap.
Finally Sherlock is handy for creating mason circles (based on the peeks and death flips, he can have a good idea of who's legit and who's not).
Btw Geno: your peek result please before you die.
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Post by Caelun_Niveus on Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:09 pm

Rainboy wrote:
Caelun_Niveus wrote:I'm going to try and investigate French again tonight, see if I might be insane and get a different result.  I encourage Zyq to do the same.

Note: The Insane Inspector gets inverted peeks. eg, he peeks normal villagers as guilty and mafia as innocent. The two Confused Inspectors will get the random results you seem to be searching for.


Noted, my bad. Just got the names mixed up.
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Post by Zink120 on Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:53 pm

Didn't really know who to peek so I peeked French too, and also got French is not mafia.

Are we still doing the [vote no lynch] thing till we work stuff out?
And should we try and co-ordinate who we peek? I feel like we're (mostly) taking shots in the dark.
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Post by French Connections on Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:14 pm

Zink120 wrote:Didn't really know who to peek so I peeked French too, and also got French is not mafia.

Are we still doing the [vote no lynch] thing till we work stuff out?
And should we try and co-ordinate who we peek? I feel like we're (mostly) taking shots in the dark.

Getting a scum vibe from you tbh my bro. :/ It's pointless co-ordinating, as it allows Mafia to rig the peeks by night killing targets. This round is heavily RNG based in that respect; gotta hope that players roll the dice on the right targets. The mental process comes at R3/4.
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Post by Rainboy on Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:43 pm

Round 2 end!

French was killed. No lynch won the vote.

[dusk]
[kill French, shot]
[dawn]

PMs going out shortly.
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Post by Rainboy on Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:57 pm

It has been pointed out to me that I neglected to specify that PMs are allowed. For the record, they are.
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Post by Shadi on Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:58 pm

Alright I've been bullshitting about my peeks. I am Sherlock Holmes, Link and French are both innocent (as they were shot and village has no kill, so obv results are obv)

I suggest Watson messaging me asap.
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Post by Aboithagameboi on Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:28 pm

I saw a lot of French being not mafia, but Cael's was the only one that said he was mafia. Cael also said that Shadi was innocent, and "Link and French are innocent because they were shot" is not a good way for me to believe that he's Sherlock.

[vote shadi]
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Post by Caelun_Niveus on Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:38 pm

Well, I did investigate French again, and he came up innocent this time.  So I'm confused as fuck, and that means my "innocent" peak at Shadi is meaningless.

So I'mma go with Aboi on this one. As Sherlock, it would be more helpful to tell us if the dead were Normal, Insane, or Confused, rather than the obvious "they were innocent because they were nightkilled"
[vote Shadi]
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Post by Shadi on Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:11 pm

Looks like we've got ourselves a couple of scummy posts here, I'm gonna add my vote on Aboi [Vote Aboi]
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Post by Zyquux on Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:15 pm

I got that Aboi is not mafia. Maybe I'm naive?
Shadi is either not paying attention or lying (probably the latter).

[vote Shadi]
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Post by Shadi on Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:47 pm

Zyquux wrote:I got that Aboi is not mafia.  Maybe I'm naive?
Shadi is either not paying attention or lying (probably the latter).

[vote Shadi]

And what makes you sane, AND not mafia?
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Post by Aboithagameboi on Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:15 pm

Shadi wrote:I find that Aboi is not mafia

Come on man
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Post by Shadi on Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:28 am

Aboithagameboi wrote:
Shadi wrote:I find that Aboi is not mafia

Come on man

Yea, I'd go around claiming to be Sherlock when I want people to think I'm a normal inspector at first? Genius.
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Post by Shadi on Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:35 am

I was just told there is no Watson, well that claim went nowhere lol. >_>
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Post by Rainboy on Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:16 am

First, may I remind you all that this round is LYLO if you all decide to lynch.

Second, we are one vote away from instalynch.

Good luck, guys.
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Post by Aboithagameboi on Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:33 am

Town is stacked against anyway. If Geno is town and gets modkilled, Town loses. If Shadi is Town and we lynch him, we lose.

I think if Geno is town and Shadi is mafia we lose anyway, or it's still lylo. Shadi just isn't putting up a good defense for himself so let's go for it.
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Post by Caelun_Niveus on Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:43 pm

Rainboy wrote:First, may I remind you all that this round is LYLO if you all decide to lynch.

Second, we are one vote away from instalynch.

Good luck, guys.

I get an ominous feeling from that post... I'm not changing my vote though, Shadi's been acting shady as fuck.
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Post by Zink120 on Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:41 pm

Well, people seem pretty sure about Shadi so I guess I'll [vote Shadi] too? V sorry if I screw us all over with this :=/
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Post by Shadi on Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:02 pm

Such obvious mafia wagoning, whoever's town gonna regret this when over xD

And what defense do you want me to put up in this situation? I told you every result I got which is everything I know, I told you why I came out which was a derp coz lack of Watson.
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Post by Caelun_Niveus on Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:15 pm

Shadi wrote:And what defense do you want me to put up in this situation? I told you every result I got which is everything I know, I told you why I came out which was a derp coz lack of Watson.

1. Nothing anymore. Instalynch happened. Even on the small chance you were telling the truth, the time for it to matter is over.

2. What you COULD have said, were you actually who you claimed, is the sanity of the deceased players, rather than their alignment. That whey were innocent? No shit, Sherlock, we knew that from the fact that they died.

Basically, your bogus roleclaim was bogus.
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Post by Shadi on Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:57 pm

Did you ever ask for their sanity, other than counting how many of the sane/insane ppl could possibly alive it'd help nothing.

Since it's instalynch you'll see I wasn't mafia once the host posts his actions lol.
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Post by Shadi on Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:58 pm

but yeah GG mafia.
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Post by Rainboy on Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:15 pm

Game, set and match. Instalynch reached.

Shadi was lynched and Geno modkilled, leaving us at exactly parity.

Roles:

Confused Inspectors: Caelun_Niveus, Shadi
Naive Inspector: Aboithagameboi
Insane Inspector: Geno, the AFK wonder
Sane Inspector: Link Lab
Sherlock: French Connections
Moriarty: Zink120
Blackwood: Zyquux

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The Sherlock Logic Award goes to... French Connections, ironically enough, for keeping the village from a random R1 lynch. The math this game meant that the village should either start lynching R2 or R4, assuming no modkills, for optimal chances of killing Moriarty and his crew.

The Morarty Vanishing Award goes to Geno, who dropped off the face of the planet once the game started. While he made a couple of posts, he did not vote nor submit (or even reveal) any peeks.

The Blackwood Insanity Award goes to Shadi, who for some reason decided it would be a good idea to claim Sherlock (which could've been fine, if he'd done it right) without supplying the information that Sherlock would've known, and then lash out and accuse anyone and everyone who questioned his claims.
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Post by Zink120 on Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:19 pm

GG, all. Thanks for an interesting round, Rain.

Feel bad for killing Shadi, but that's the game!
Good logic from French, as you said, but it sure got our attention, so he wasn't gonna last long enough to help the town much.
Shame about Geno, could have gotten really tense, but that tipped the balance off somewhat.
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