Round 17: Mafia Python and the Holy Grail

With my last words, All I say is this:
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

AH! LEO NINJA'D!
Missed it by 2 mins Q_____Q
Rofl. Duely noted, Link. You shall be avenged.

Link has been lynched. The verdict is...
INNOCENT (Sir Lancelot)

Dracojounin7 wrote:Link, you are Sir Lancelot!
Once during the campaign, during the knight, er, night, you can choose to commit a vigilante kill. Be warned, this exposes your role to the general public. If you have not yet committed your kill, you are immune to vigilante and mafia kills due to your prowess in battle.

Tonight, Orion (humble servant) was killed.

Dracojounin7 wrote:Orion, you are a humble servant!
Each knight, er, night, you can investigate someone's tent to identify them. However, be warned... if you investigate someone the night they get targeted by the mafia, you'll die instead.

...Two investigators dead.

Well, Stalin, are you still claiming an investigative role?

Link Lab wrote:With my last words, All I say is this:
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Sorry you turned out to be innocent though, didn't think Leo would ninja the lockdown.

GOOD SIR LANCELOT, NOOO!!!

Revenge votan on Rofl, as instructed by the innocent Link. Unless he was just laughing real hard before dying. That would be an amusing misunderstanding.
Suspicions on Leo.

Rofl - 1 - Zink

Leo, with the inclusion of paranoid, naïve investigators, Stalin *could* still be, but I agree, it sounds a tad unlikely.

Since I have to go now and probably won't be on at all for most of today and tomorrow, I need to lay it all bare right now.

Stalin. You are mafia. And nothing short of a post-mortem role reveal will convince me otherwise.

You claimed an investigative role with two others out there. Odds of you being a third investigative role are almost nonexistent, since two is absurd as it is. And if you are, it's almost certain that either you are an insane cop or there is a mafia framer out there. In which case, you WILL lose the game for us if we believe you.

The final clue is the fact that you still live. No mafia would let an investigator live for the night, even as part of a plan. It's too dangerous. You did not die because either you are the mafia, or the mafia knows you're wrong.

Rofl - 1 - Zink
Stalin - 1 - Leo

Total - 2/10

Hmmm. We've got quite the mess here chums.
While points are being made and no scum is dying I can only go with my previous vote on Leo until things alter my decision.

Rofl - 1 - Zink
Stalin - 1 - Leo
Leo - 1 - Nyu

Total - 3/10

Ugh, this isn't working out well for us.

I don't have much time to stick around today so I'll just abstain until I return.

But I will say I'm getting a bad vibe from Rofl after his reply to Link's last post. However despite what was said, Stalin doesn't give me a good feeling either.

Will vote later.

Rofl - 1 - Zink
Stalin - 1 - Leo
Leo - 1 - Nyu
Abstain - 1 - Axel

Total - 4/10

Welp. This could mean anything. Buuuut only the end of the game will tell me whether I was right or not...

Well then! Stalin could either be a Paranoid/Psycho cop OR he could be a total liar!
Leo raises some valid points on his post. I was going to say more, but freaking Firefox crashed right the bleep out of nowhere and now I can't be arsed to type my explanation again.

Voting for Stalin.
Rofl - 1 - Zink
Stalin - 2 - Leo, DA
Leo - 1 - Nyu
Abstain - 1 - Axel

Total - 5/10

Well, we've probably lost this one already...we've got 10 players left, 4 probably being mafia and two investigators/bodyguards dead. With this many townie special roles, the mafia probably has some powers too (at least a Godfather), not to mention the possibility of a survivor around.

Now we've got the issue of Stalin vs. Leo, and in the worst case scenario, they are both mafiosos, since if any of them dies and ends up being a mafioso we will probably trust the other until the end. Sacrificing a partner to reach victory isn't anything new in these games, and really doesn't work when the partner is already damned. On the best case, Stalin is a mafioso who made...an incredibly risky and unnecessary move. To be frank, every case with these two is possible, they are both suspicious and I was waiting for investigations on Leo and Stalin, but dead men tell no tales.

Meanwhile, Rofl behaves as he always does and that way voting for him is just a random vote.
I don't even remember Aboi's usual behavior in these games, so I feel that voting for him because he's quiet is another random vote, and the only person I suspected and tried to lynch is Zink, who's still alive...I will think a bit before voting, because we are one step away from a mafia victory, or on the best case a survivor cockblock.

Leo E. wrote:

The final clue is the fact that you still live. No mafia would let an investigator live for the night, even as part of a plan. It's too dangerous. You did not die because either you are the mafia, or the mafia knows you're wrong.

Someone who makes a brash claim such as myself would certainly get investigated if there were any investigators left in the game, and take a closer look at orion's role. If the person he is investigating is targeted, He dies instead. Obviously the poor manservant served as my shield.

Rofl - 1 - Zink
Stalin - 2 - Leo, DA
Leo - 2 - Nyu, Stalin
Abstain - 1 - Axel

Total - 6/10

We've lost 3 hiders now, 2 of which were investigators.
While I severely doubt there are any left Mr. Stalin, I'm also suspicious of Mr. Leo.
Abstain for now, but I have my eyes on both of you.

Rofl - 1 - Zink
Stalin - 2 - Leo, DA
Leo - 2 - Nyu, Stalin
Abstain - 2 - Axel, Cloak

Total - 7/10

StalinCommander wrote:
Someone who makes a brash claim such as myself would certainly get investigated if there were any investigators left in the game, and take a closer look at orion's role. If the person he is investigating is targeted, He dies instead. Obviously the poor manservant served as my shield.

Unfortunately for you, this does not do anything to prove your story. It could easily have happened the other way around, with him investigating me to confirm your suspicions, and getting killed instead as you targeted me.

Of course, there's always the possibility Rofl set Leo up for the hammer, so really, everyone on the block is suspicious. Still abstaining.

And looking back I see that our investigators never voted for anyone. Orion mentioned he suspected Leo yesterday, and my guess is that with all the Leo/Stalin confusion, he at least investigated one of them the night before that post, yet he only said Leo was suspicious, when he had the chance to trun the voting against him, what makes me think that Orion actually investigated Stalin and got an innocent result.

...and unfortunately that proves nothing, because the most common special role for mafia is the Godfather, and we still didn't get him. We will only be sure about who Orion investigated that night and what result he had at the end of the game, but if Stalin is scum and took the risk of saying all that even knowing damn well that he would be targeted by investigators, he is probably the Godfather. IF he is, that doesn't prove Leo's innocence, it actually makes sense that the Godfather would only risk pointing his finger to a mafia goon, since if we killed Leo and found ou a townie role, one of the most important roles in the mafia would die next.

So, all approaches make sense, including the one where the mafia is grabbing popcorn while we point at two innocents, one being a paranoid cop or someone fooled by the mafia framer, what only reminds me of how fucked we are. Not only that, but we don't have a single person who really gave evidence of their innocence. Since we are fucked, I will take the risk and vote for Stalin, at least that way I won't be making a completely random vote.

Rofl - 1 - Zink
Stalin - 3 - Leo, DA, Mentlegen
Leo - 2 - Nyu, Stalin
Abstain - 2 - Axel, Cloak

Total - 8/10

Changing vote to leo for the sake of the RNG

Rofl - 1 - Zink
Stalin - 3 - Leo, DA, Mentlegen
Leo - 3 - Nyu, Stalin, Cloak
Abstain - 1 - Axel

Total - 8/10

Stalin is innocent. That I am certain of. When I protect people at night, if they are mafia I die. This is how I knew Link was innocent.
We kill Stalin then we lose, so I have to vote Leo. Because while I'm not sure Leo is guilty, I am sure that Stalin is innocent.

Stalin - 3 - Leo, DA, Mentlegen
Leo - 4 - Nyu, Stalin, Cloak, Zink
Abstain - 1 - Axel

Total - 8/10

Going back to abstain to keep it balanced. I'm not convinced about either one, and I'm determined to let the RNG decide this one.

Don't do it, Cloak!
I KNOW that Stalin is innocent, but we don't know for Leo. You should change your vote back.

Zink120 wrote:I KNOW that Stalin is innocent

You don't, though. Roleblockers and bus drivers could have easily messed with your ability.

Stalin - 3 - Leo, DA, Mentlegen
Leo - 3 - Nyu, Stalin, Zink
Abstain - 2 - Axel, Cloak

Total - 8/10

Well, I'm really hoping Zink is a desperate goon trying to save his boss, because getting two in a row is one of the few ways we can get out of this crap. Letting the RNG decide should be fun.

Remember Cromafia? RNG decided that one in grand fashion.
Let us trust it this time.