Re: Round 45 - Mafia Story

by HATER Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:47 am

Shadi wrote:
StalinCommander wrote:
Note:

Cool it with that.
I mean, in depth is alright. Anylizing shit is good, I'm personally glad that it's gotten people more interested in the game.

But the amount of wallposts can be summed up with our newest banner quote-

"[12:01:14 AM] *** [9:59:55 PM] MrNaleIt: They put up so many walls that this game is a fucking maze *** "

So yeah, right now you're at a fuckin volcano, cool it to a warm bath level, aye?

I haven't made a wall of text yet in this game, biggest post so far was on page 8 and that's not big. HATER is difficult to cool down with the walls though :P, it's usually how he argues and how he makes people follow him, part of what makes his aggressive style work. It's difficult to make people believe an aggressive "must-get-role-claims"-guy without a lot of arguments to back it up. Since there are no PM rights he wants to prove his votes to be thoroughly thought-out and enough for people to follow him. While yeah, the rest of us are passive and try to keep it so concise as possible (he reiterates his arguments often which makes the wall redundant and repeating the same thing with different words). HATER's vocabulary is also extensive and his grammar very good; so he likes to show that off.

In other words, very often with his posts you can read the start of the post to understand what subject it is, and read the bottom for his conclusion and ignore all in the middle xD

(Correct me if any of that is wrong, HATER)

Edit:

Also on a game where majority can only rely on what's been said on the thread, the more shared thoughts on the thread the merrier. As we cannot take it in private we have to go all out here.

Meh, mostly correct. A couple of things to be tweaked:

1) It's not okay to just ignore what's at the middle xD
2) I don't just post to "show off" my vocabulary. I post to share information, speculate on wolves, and generally help the town to victory. Useless posting is...well, useless. And I'd hardly venture to call any of my previous posts on this thread useless, regardless of how long they were.

I'll admit that my vote on Vat was a hurried, last-minute deal (Axel bugged me to vote and I'm still getting used to extrashort rounds). I didn't like that someone was voting on a claimed Doc. (With no counterclaims, no less).

I didn't see cloak's claim until afterwards, unfortunately, so if people were wondering why I was voting Vat, then there it is.

by Gam Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:19 am

Seriously guys, cloak confirmed vats innocence. Why are you voting for him.

by The Mysterious Gourmet Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:11 am

I mostly voted for him as a joke, so I'll rescind that.

Vat - Zink
DA - 1 - Zyquux
HATER - 2 - Shadi, Acronymvehicle
Rofl - 1 - French
Quebec - 1 - Gamage
Abstain - 1 - DA
No vote yet - 1 - Massive

8/11

by Massive Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:31 pm

Since there's a 50% chance that I'll die this night due to RNG I'll give my 2 cents.
Shadi seems to be trying to fit in as a townie too much, mostly with over analysing and walls of text. I apologise if this is your way of playing regularly, but when people are this descriptive right off the start of the round they generally seem more suspicious, at least imo.
I say this because I see walls of text as a way of trying to bandwagon on someone and you seem to always change your target every round.
Again, I apologize if this is incorrect but you seem to play in a offensive way since day 1.

Vat - Zink
DA - 1 - Zyquux
HATER - 2 - Shadi, Acronymvehicle
Rofl - 1 - French
Quebec - 1 - Gamage
Abstain - 1 - DA
Shadi - 1 - Massive

8/11

by Zyquux Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:35 pm

Switching to Zink. First he makes a separate vote tally for Yoshi, then votes for someone basically confirmed innocent? Suspicious. At the very least, his shenanigans will be put to rest and not screw over the town.

Vat - 1 - Zink
HATER - 2 - Shadi, Acronymaeroplane
Rofl - 1 - French
Cheese-eating surrender monkey - 1 - Gamage
Zink - 1 - Zyquux
Abstain - 1 - DA
No vote yet - 1 - Massive

8/11

by Massive Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:48 pm

Zyquux wrote:Switching to Zink. First he makes a separate vote tally for Yoshi, then votes for someone basically confirmed innocent? Suspicious. At the very least, his shenanigans will be put to rest and not screw over the town.

Massive in charge of paying attention to voting patterns.

Vat - 1 - Zink
HATER - 2 - Shadi, Pancake
Pancake - 1 - Souflé
Souflé - 1 - Gamage
Zink - 2 - Zyquux, Massive
Abstain - 1 - DA

8/11

by French Connections Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:11 pm

Zyquux wrote:Switching to Zink. First he makes a separate vote tally for Yoshi, then votes for someone basically confirmed innocent? Suspicious. At the very least, his shenanigans will be put to rest and not screw over the town.

Tbh I don't get why Zink's voting for vat again; it's virtually certain that he's legit. Given that he was unable to give me a good reason for it over dinner, I second Zyq.

Vat - 1 - Zink
HATER - 2 - Shadi, Acronymaeroplane
Cheese-eating surrender monkey - 1 - Gamage
Zink - 2 - Zyquux, French
Abstain - 1 - DA
No vote yet - 1 - Massive

8/11

by Hunter Axel Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:22 pm

Current vote count

Vat - 1 - Zink
HATER - 2 - Shadi, Rofl
French - 1 - Gamage
Zink - 3 - Zyquux, Massive, French
Abstain - 1 - DA

8/11

by Shadi Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:15 pm

Massive wrote:Since there's a 50% chance that I'll die this night due to RNG I'll give my 2 cents.
Shadi seems to be trying to fit in as a townie too much, mostly with over analysing and walls of text. I apologise if this is your way of playing regularly, but when people are this descriptive right off the start of the round they generally seem more suspicious, at least imo.
I say this because I see walls of text as a way of trying to bandwagon on someone and you seem to always change your target every round.
Again, I apologize if this is incorrect but you seem to play in a offensive way since day 1.

I beg to differ, I've made 2 big posts and one where I wrote about HATER's general behaviour and one analysis post (page 8)

It depends on the games, in some I'm silent in some I talk a lot it depends on the game and not my alignment you'll prolly see soon (best way to not be read is by being random).

As for target switching, I try to pick one target I see the most suspicious each round. I wanted to vote on Leo twice but I realised he was dead the next round (there's proof of that :P); now it's steadfast on HATER unless someone else shows more signs of being mafia.

You seem to confuse me with HATER (he's the aggressive one with walls of text). Also I "nearly" proved myself villager early in the game by stopping the lynch, unless you disagree that it's very weird to give mafia that ability. I know you retracted your vote, but I'd just like to clear the situation.

by HATER Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:42 pm

Hokay, well, there's some shit I gotta say.

I've tried my best to condense my thoughts and my giant wall of text reasoning into simple point.

1) @Massive: Voting for Shadi is a stupid, stupid, idea. Since when has there ever been a mafia Mayor role? Shadi is 99% innocent in my eyes.

Vat is about 80% innocent IMO. I don't know exactly how good cloak is at judging people and I've seen villagers be misled by people they were "90% sure" were villagers, but I'm willing to give Vat the benefit of the doubt here.

People we should not vote on:

Shadi
Vatonnage
Massive
Zyquux

2) The main reason I voted for Vat is because he was voting for a claimed doctor, which is never a good idea. I didn't see cloak's post, unfortunately.

3) I will roleclaim next round if I don't die.

4) I agree with the thing on Zink. He's being very stupid with his votes. I'm not 100% sure he's mafia, but I'd like to squeeze a claim outta him if I may.

Vat - 1 - Zink
HATER - 2 - Shadi, Rofl
French - 1 - Gamage
Zink - 4 - Zyquux, Massive, French, HATER
Abstain - 1 - DA

9/11

That said, there's something fishy about this whole game, and I haven't figured it out yet, something just seems very "off" to me. I know there's a critical detail I'm missing.

by Nyu-Shark Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:55 pm

Here I go with my input for the time being:
Our sweet companion Zink is being rather loopy with his voting which in return rouses suspicion to some of our fellow companions. Ergo, Zink is screwed. As for our innocents so far it seems like Massive, Rofl, and Vattonage fall in the category. Zyquux and French fit in the middle along with our beautiful and intelligent newcomers Shadi and HATER.

While Zink may be a tempting decision I'm left predicting that this execution won't be satisfactory. With little else to go with otherwise, I'll aim my vote towards the least suspicious candidate DA as I have a tendency to point my finger at those who blend in with the surroundings when there's nothing else to believe at the time being.

Of course you are free to object and slam me down with evidence as I am a rather neglective person without intending to.

Vat - 1 - Zink
HATER - 2 - Shadi, Rofl
French - 1 - Gamage
Zink - 4 - Zyquux, Massive, French, HATER
Abstain - 1 - DA
DA - 1 - Nyu

10/11

by Vatonnage Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:01 pm

Voting for Nyu because dammit Nyu I wanted to vote for DA first

Vat - 1 - Zink
HATER - 2 - Shadi, Rofl
French - 1 - Gamage
Zink - 4 - Zyquux, Massive, French, HATER
DA - 1 - Nyu
Nyu - 1 - Vatonnage
Abstain - 1 - DA

11/11 (Check 'em)

by HATER Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:17 pm

Vatonnage wrote:Voting for Nyu because dammit Nyu I wanted to vote for DA first

Vat - 1 - Zink
HATER - 2 - Shadi, Rofl
French - 1 - Gamage
Zink - 4 - Zyquux, Massive, French, HATER
DA - 1 - Nyu
Nyu - 1 - Vatonnage
Abstain - 1 - DA

11/11 (Check 'em)

I'm at a loss for words for you...why do you vote so arbitrarily?

Your vote is as powerful as you make it. With your vote, you hold life and death in your hands. Why you would throw it on someone without a good reason is beyond me.

by Scept Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:32 pm

Welcome to the Halolz Mafia Forums, where we don't take everything so f*cking seriously.

by Vatonnage Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:35 pm

HATER wrote:Your vote is as powerful as you make it. With your vote, you hold life and death in your hands. Why you would throw it on someone without a good reason is beyond me.

Because I want to play God. Of course God's reasons are beyond us. Either that or he's just a giant prick.

by Hunter Axel Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:42 am

I apologize for not updating. My net is acting funny and I'm hoping to update in the morning.

by Hunter Axel Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:29 pm

Sorry guys. Net is still not working. I'm really sorry for the delay. For those wondering, I'm using my phone.

by French Connections Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:42 pm

Scept wrote:where we don't take everything so f*cking seriously.

Ionno, I remember you blowing up over a bloody video game character.

by HATER Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:56 pm

Scept wrote:Welcome to the Halolz Mafia Forums, where we don't take everything so f*cking seriously.

Hey man, mafia's some srs shit. This is smooth sailing compared to some of the giant clusterfuck firefights our community gets into.

by Shadi Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:23 pm

HATER wrote:
Scept wrote:Welcome to the Halolz Mafia Forums, where we don't take everything so f*cking seriously.

Hey man, mafia's some srs shit. This is smooth sailing compared to some of the giant clusterfuck firefights our community gets into.

Still HATER, we are guests here and we should respect how they want it and if they seem to not really like our style it's us who should adapt. If they play a little less serious and don't fight much, then we should get accustomed! Variety/Change is good, but we also need to compromise :D

Edit: Also we can try to do it little by little, maybe at some point they'll like it.

by HATER Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:37 pm

Shadi wrote:
HATER wrote:
Scept wrote:Welcome to the Halolz Mafia Forums, where we don't take everything so f*cking seriously.

Hey man, mafia's some srs shit. This is smooth sailing compared to some of the giant clusterfuck firefights our community gets into.

Still HATER, we are guests here and we should respect how they want it and if they seem to not really like our style it's us who should adapt. If they play a little less serious and don't fight much, then we should get accustomed! Variety/Change is good, but we also need to compromise :D

Edit: Also we can try to do it little by little, maybe at some point they'll like it.

I disagree (partly).

I agree that we should be courteous since we are guests, but I will NOT compromise my play to do so. I still will play to the best of my abilities the best way I know how to. I'm sorry if people think I take things too seriously, but I do want to win, and if I have to be serious and sharp about it to pull off a village win here, I will do so. It's for our own good IMO.

I can troll and fuck around when I want to, but I want to win now. Things are getting to a critical point here. Assuming Zink's not mafia and no shenanigans prevent the mafia nightkill, we'll have two more of our number dead when the round is over.

That brings us to 9 players which (assuming Axel follows the rule of 1/4ths) is LyLo. That's not cool, especially since our mayor already wasted his ability (which is best used in LyLo situations).

by Scept Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:52 pm

Well, that's fine. Feel free to be as serious as you want later on in the game. But in the first couple days, when nobody has any information to share, we don't take it seriously at all.

French Connections wrote:Ionno, I remember you blowing up over a bloody video game character.

HEY. Amy is my waifu, and waifus are srs business. Just ask Leo.

by Massive Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:09 pm

Scept wrote:Amy is my waifu, and waifus are srs business.

you're waifu a shit

Just saying

by Scept Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:21 pm

No. Just stop right there.

by Zyquux Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:53 pm

Hey Scept, Amy knows why they call him Big the Cat. She can also attest to Sonic being the fastest hedgehog alive.

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