Re: Round 21: Sakuya, what's "mafia"?

by Cloak Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:19 pm

Ehhh...
Mehhhhh...
The only one left must be the godfather.
So we're down to lucky guesses.

We're fucked.
Mentle Votan.
My suspicions suck.

Zink - 4 - Scept, DA, Stalin, Mentlegen
Mentle - 1 - Cloak
Abstain - 1 - Zink

Total - 6/9

by Hunter Axel Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:26 pm

Wait, wait, wait a second everyone!

Abstaining costs spirit for just about everyone right? Why lynch Zink when he could be mod-killed later?

Personally, I say we focus on the people that are here and lynch someone else.

I'll vote for Stalin for now.

by Mentle Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:41 pm

Hunter Axel wrote:Wait, wait, wait a second everyone!

Abstaining costs spirit for just about everyone right? Why lynch Zink when he could be mod-killed later?

If he is another role that loses 1 spirit per abstain, it will still take 4 more days before he reaches 0 orbs and gets mod-killed. We will finish this before that.

I agree about Stalin, I suspect him more than Zink, but I think we can take the risk of lynching someone who will only abstain.

by **Leo E.** Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:44 pm

Mentle wrote:If he is another role that loses 1 spirit per abstain, it will still take 4 more days before he reaches 0 orbs and gets mod-killed. We will finish this before that.

First, all roles except Mima's recover spirit in the morning. Enough to cover the abstain cost, but usually not for both abstaining and abilities.

Second, you're only modkilled if you run out of orbs. First he'd have to shatter all five of them.

by Mentle Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:52 pm

Leo E. wrote:First, all roles except Mima's recover spirit in the morning. Enough to cover the abstain cost, but usually not for both abstaining and abilities.

I was guessing you'd allow Zink to leave his night decisions for the following nights, since he apparently had to travel. Of course he wouldn't randomly use his abilities like that if he was a role like vigilante, but he could take the risk as other roles that have less chances of ruining the town.

Either way I messed up and forgot how the spirit orb system works, I thought he would be modkilled if he couldn't vote at all during the day.

Keeping my vote on Zink, keeping my eyes on Stalin.

by Hunter Axel Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:54 pm

Okay well how about this:

We ignore Zink and vote for someone else, and in the event that a) we lynch an innocent and b) no one has been killed at night. Then we vote for Zink the next day and hopefully have the town win.

However, if we still lynch someone innocent and someone IS night killed, chances are that it isn't Zink and we should be focusing our attention on someone else.

This is all if Zink is still not here and is still abstaining.

That sound like a plan?

by **Leo E.** Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:55 pm

I must also point out that I won't be around for a majority of tomorrow.

Leave your night decisions by PM rather than Skype. Even if I'm not back by then, polls still close at 10 PM EDT (approximately 22 hours after this post).

by Mentle Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:31 am

I've changed my mind. I suspect Stalin more than Zink, and he is the one I want to take down today.

Zink - 3 - Scept, DA, Stalin
Stalin - 2 - Axel, Mentlegen
Mentle - 1 - Cloak
Abstain - 1 - Zink

Total - 7/9

by DA Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:44 am

I think I see Ment's point. Stalin's voting pattern seems suspicious
'sides, voting for Zink would be like wasting a vote. If another murder doesn't happen tomorrow night, I will vote for Zink. Also, Mafia-Stalin has a knack to side with someone who seems to act good at deciphering, yet is partly clueless at times, and that would be me. So yeah.

Zink - 2 - Scept, Stalin
Stalin - 3 - Axel, Mentlegen, DA
Mentle - 1 - Cloak
Inactivity Sign: Long Abstain - 1 - Zink
Total - 6/9

by Mentle Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:32 am

Oh, if we do have a role with vigilante powers, it might be a good idea so hold your fire for now. With 9 players left and 1 mafioso, we can take it easy (don't even dare using one of those images), think and vote together instead of shooting everyone you suspect.

by Zyquux Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:31 am

Not sure if shenanigans or mafia just particularly obvious this game.

I don't have any suspects right now, but I agree with waiting to lynch Zink.

Hmmmmm.... I'll vote for Scept because why not.

Zink - 2 - Scept, Stalin
Stalin - 3 - Axel, Mentlegen, DA
Mentle - 1 - Cloak
Scept - 1 - Zyquux
Inactivity Sign: Long Abstain - 1 - Zink
Total - 7/9

by Dracojounin7 Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:19 am

Oh well shitsux, couldn't help it since I was out of town. Have fun, kids.

by **Leo E.** Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:29 am

Mentle wrote:don't even dare using one of those images

Round 21: Sakuya, what's "mafia"? - Page 6 Yukkuri_MarisaReimu

Easy!

by Mentle Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:48 am

Leo E. wrote:
Easy!

Round 21: Sakuya, what's "mafia"? - Page 6 Tumblr11

by **StalinCommander** Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:40 am

DA wrote:I think I see Ment's point. Stalin's voting pattern seems suspicious
'sides, voting for Zink would be like wasting a vote. If another murder doesn't happen tomorrow night, I will vote for Zink. Also, Mafia-Stalin has a knack to side with someone who seems to act good at deciphering, yet is partly clueless at times, and that would be me. So yeah.

Zink - 2 - Scept, Stalin
Stalin - 3 - Axel, Mentlegen, DA
Mentle - 1 - Cloak
Inactivity Sign: Long Abstain - 1 - Zink
Total - 6/9

How have my voting patterns been suspicious. I've voted for Scept because It was a tiebreaker, Vat because he was bandwaggoning, and Zink because he was AFK.
All legitimate reasons.

by Mentle Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:22 pm

StalinCommander wrote:How have my voting patterns been suspicious. I've voted for Scept because It was a tiebreaker, Vat because he was bandwaggoning, and Zink because he was AFK.
All legitimate reasons.

You out of all people defending suspicious stupidity just seemed wrong to me (specially when that behavior comes from Pheonix and Draco), and with Pheonix and Draco claiming they were forcing ties on purpose, proving to be either mafia or useless townies we should get rid off, you voted Scep instead, breaking the tie between Draco and him and saving a mafia from a lynch...if the power shenanigans didn't happen.

But no, I'm not sure about you and I won't be until you die. I have few people I suspect and I doubt there is more than one mafioso left, I know you can become one of the most dangerous mafiosos when backed into a corner, if you really are the last one you are probably PMing people desperate for whoever trusts you, and that can end up bad, so eliminating you now, out of all the people I suspect, seems to be the safest route to victory.

by **StalinCommander** Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:54 pm

I plainly gave my reasons for choosing Scept over Draco, Draco could have easily just been his...himself.
Voting for you, really, because you're voting for me.

Zink - 1 - Scept
Stalin - 3 - Axel, Mentlegen, DA
Mentle - 2 - Cloak, Stalin
Inactivity Sign: Long Abstain - 1 - Zink
Total - 6/9

by Zyquux Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:28 pm

Hmmmm...voting Mentle now, because he seems too logical in his effort to get Stalin lynched.

Zink - 1 - Scept
Stalin - 3 - Axel, Mentlegen, DA
Mentle - 3 - Cloak, Stalin, Zyquux
Inactivity Sign: Long Abstain - 1 - Zink
Total - 8/9

by Mentle Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:46 pm

Zyquux wrote:Hmmmm...voting Mentle now, because he seems too logical in his effort to get Stalin lynched.

>First to put Phoenix in danger of being lynched on second day

>Change vote to the other mafioso and get him in risk of being lynched later (accidently making Phoenix basically stand out as mafia)

>Vote for Draco on the third day when I could force RNG to protect him by voting for any of 4 other players or simply vote for a random person and let Draco save himself

>Simply point out that Stalin's vote on the second day broke the tie that risked killing a mafioso and that he may be mafia.

"MENTLEVOTAN."

How dare I use logic in a mafia game?

Now, can you people remember the events in this round before jumping on the guy who always does what he is doing now?

by Cloak Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:05 pm

All this is making my head hurt.

Switching to Zink because he's the only one that's not making a difference.
Not like we lose much by him dying at this point. >_>

Zink - 1 - Scept, Cloak
Stalin - 3 - Axel, Mentlegen, DA
Mentle - 2 - Stalin, Zyquux
Inactivity Sign: Long Abstain - 1 - Zink
Total - 8/9

by **Leo E.** Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:21 pm

Correcting numbers, and waiting on Vat's vote. 3:39 left until polls close, night choices need to be in by then, even if I'm not here at the time.

Zink - 2 - Scept, Cloak
Stalin - 3 - Axel, Mentlegen, DA
Mentle - 2 - Stalin, Zyquux
Abstain Sign "Devil's Vote" - 1 - Zink
Total - 8/9

by **StalinCommander** Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:42 pm

Switching back to Zink, partly to save myself, partly because again, loosing him loses us nothing.

Zink - 3 - Scept, Cloak, Stalin
Stalin - 3 - Axel, Mentlegen, DA
Mentle - 1 -, Zyquux
Abstain Sign "Devil's Vote" - 1 - Zink
Total - 8/9

by Vatonnage Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:01 pm

Abstaining, because I don't see any real loss lynching one over the other

Zink - 3 - Scept, Cloak, Stalin
Stalin - 3 - Axel, Mentlegen, DA
Mentle - 1 -, Zyquux
Abstain Sign "Devil's Vote" - 2 - Zink, Vatonnage
Total - 9/9

by **Leo E.** Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:16 pm

All the votes are in. While I still have time, I'm grilling the people with the last two night choices.

Once I get those, I can close the polls early, if you want.

by **Leo E.** Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:54 pm

Now I actually DO have all the night actions, so... I can speed things up if you want, or we could just wait the last hour.

EDIT: Scratch that, need to clarify one of them. So we'll just wait through the last hour.

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